Public Schools or Public Screwels? Part 3

I again decided to do a new page due to the length of the 2nd page seeming about as long as the first.

Here is a post from an anti-Common Core group:

“If enacted, ANSWERS would be among the most intrusive longitudinal data systems in the country – only 16 states and D.C. have such an Orwellian system. But most Alabama parents understand that the government has no right to collect highly personal data on their children, or on adults for that matter, and give it to other agencies to track their journey through the workforce and through life. It is none of the government’s business.”

“An equally fundamental, and troubling, aspect of this contemplated data repository is its adoption of the statist ‘socialization,’ workforce-development philosophy of education.”

https://truthinamericaneducation.com/privacy-issues-state-longitudinal-data-systems/alabama-workforce-data-bills-threaten-student-family-privacy/

I posted on some anti-Common Core forums the following questions:

1.) What do you hate the MOST about Common Core?
2.) How has it impacted YOU personally (or your kids, grandkids, etc)?
3.) What would you say to those who had it in their power to bring about the end of Common Core but didn’t either due to fear or due to greed or lust for power? Especially what would you say to those who didn’t act due to fear?
4.) What would you like to be done to the US Department of Education, the ESSA, the “College and Career Ready” stuff, the Social Emotional Learning, etc?
5.) What is your view on the government robbing the taxpayers via federal taxes and then using the money to bait states with Race to the Top funding and further bullying states by threatening to withdraw said funding unless they had transgender bathrooms in schools?
6.) What do you think of all the data mining, all the surveys on health, and all the forms the government gives your kids to fill out?
I got the following replies:
 1) rewriting of history & the constitution
2) had to pull my kids out of certain classes and fought with more schools & teachers than I can count
3) Grow a pair!!! It’s not about you, it’s about innocent kids
4) get rid of it!
5) unconstitutional
6) it’s illegal and goes against everything that is morally & ethically right
1. Everything
2. I never thought I’d homeschool and now I am.
3. Coward
4. Get rid of it. All of it.
5. I’ve got nothing nice to say about question 5. I think it’s better I don’t.
6. It’s very concerning. This isn’t information that our government needs… Unless for specefic purposes. None of those being good purposes.
1. I cannot name just one thing. Developmentally inappropriate expectations, no acknowledgement of differing learning styles. indoctrination towards globalism, inappropriate and invalid testing, outcome based education, inappropriate lesson content, outcome based education, data mining, texts on Chrome books, prescripted lessons – robbing teachers of creativity and personalized teaching, etcetera.
1. The strict you must do it this way. There are many ways to do things and not everyone does something the same way. This is teaching conformity.
2. I originally was homeschooling my child but then we found a stem school but this has impacted us because of transportation to and from school.
3. I would tell them they are a coward and need to start listening to the world around them.
4. I want to see more openness for the teachers to teach. Community College offered to high schoolers to start college earlier. More programs that help impoverished people.
5. This is so wrong. There are many students left behind because they can’t keep up and then the schools who can’t keep up are losing more money so they fall farther behind.
6. They have no business involved in this. Each school should make that decision. And around me they have done a good job of coming up with solution that both parties are ok with.

None of my grandkids can do math. They can’t even do basic math such as subtraction with borrowing & I’m talking 8th grade! It isn’t just them but their friends also. It’s pathetic! The history is being slanted, corrupted, just left out & ignored. I’m constantly correcting what they’ve been taught & filling in what’s left out. Cursive isn’t being taught either. Research it & see why it’s important if you don’t know. CC needs to be gotten rid of & tried & true methods & curriculums gone back to. We need to go back to what has shown positive results. The federal government needs to get out education & leave it to the states & local districts. No state wants their kids to have poor educations. The feds do NOT need to be involved. It isn’t even constitutional for them to be telling the states what/how to educate. That is the state’s responsibility
The thing I hate most is federal control over local children. It’s a race to the bottom. If children in Detroit can’t read they make all the children do extra reading. There are children in Montana who need Ag stem to run farms but because the reading scores are so low in Detroit, they have to read more in Montana (that’s a made up example but you get the point). Personally, I have a son with a gifted IQ. He was supposed to take one of those reading tests (the kid has an A in English) he says “I have a headache” the teacher says “you have to take this” he just clicked B the whole way through and the next year was put in Learn to Read class with no consideration for the fact that he is an A student. These kids work all year to earn grades and then because of that ONE test on ONE day that determines their entire next year of classes?! Even the teacher was appealing to the school board to get him out of her class. I’d like to see the DOE closed down all together. Our parents and grandparents were plenty educated and they didn’t have a DOE until 1977. Everything was local. If your town had a reading deficit, your school board addressed it, if you needed ag stem or manufacturing stem your town addressed that too. Federal level control isn’t about children, when you are trying to come up with policies that will literally apply to millions of children you can’t possibly think one policy is going to be good for all. It’s completely impractical.

Found this post on the Choose to Refuse Common Core group page:

Thoughts on this ? A friend of a friend sent to me

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Here is a post from a pro-homeschooling group:

Thank you so much for accepting me, wow what a ride. My 13 yr daughter is failing the 7th grade an her teaches just informed me she is on a reading comprehension level of a 3rd or 4th grader so my question to them was how on earth has she made it this far??? Well “no child left behind” was their response but that she would not be able to enter into the 8th grade.. so I have decided this summer when she gets out of school, I will be homeschooling her a Christian Based curriculum from that day forward she will not be back in a public school until she goes to college, any advice an prayers are greatly appreciated, I have no idea where to begin she is so far behind so I have decided to test her on 4th, 5th an 6th grade test levels hoping this will give me a good idea of how to personalize her homeschooling.. I guess my question is am I started off on the right track?? I am 1 frustrated mamma😭😱Ty all so much for having me

And here are some replies to said post:

My daughter is in 4th and I was notified at the end of last year that she is not up to par with reading comprehension either! We pulled them and are now homeschooling both 4th and 9th.. We are working on spelling with our 9th, because apparently that wasn’t important either! I was very upset. 😣 I have no advice, but I’m hoping things start to turn around for y’all! Someone had shared a site called Superteacherworksheets.com that I went ahead and joined for a year at $20. First I printed off the free ones! My 4th grader said, she enjoyed doing them today 😊 I’m hoping it’ll get her up to grade level!

I pulled my son, he had an IEP for reading but was being taught by the IEP teacher with a math degree. He would’ve been in 4th if he’d stayed in ps. He was reading almost at full 2nd grade level. We do Charlotte Mason Language Lessons. You can start at any level so I agree with you that testing is definitely a must! You get reading, writing, grammar, spelling, punctuation and comprehension all together so it’s not overwhelming. My kiddo has ADD and his patience level is extremely low! Within a couple months he was reading large print chapter books. Now he’s reading grade level books up to the 6th-8th grade range. Also, let her pick books with subjects that interest her. That at least helped us, we started with magazines and comics, I didn’t care what he was reading and was just over the moon he was taking a interest. Go to the library, bookstores, etc… Let her feel like she’s got control, that truly helps also! Good luck and you’ve got this!!!

My oldest has the same problem. Should be in 4th but in 3rd on a 2nd grade reading level yet no one did anything to help besides me. Where can I get these lessons?
I also took my oldest child out of public school when she was in 7th grade. I gave her a diagnostic test before ordering curriculum and it showed she was on 5th grade level in Math and English . So, that is where we began in our homeschooling.

I taught her year-round in those two subjects until she got caught up to normally expected grade level. It took us three years to get caught up. Despite her set backs, she graduated one year ahead of her public school peers. When she began college after homeschool/high school graduation, she was ready for all college-level courses. No remedial courses.

I took my 14 yr old daughter out of school this yr, she is in 7th grade. she was held back in preschool for speech they said she would skip young 5’s but she also did that too. not being held back or anything k-now. she tested at 5th grade math and is really struggling with it. she don’t get concepts of multiplying and division even adding with carry overs or subtracting with borrowing is sometimes hard. but instead of her getting farther behind in p.s. I see her getting better and moving forward. she lacks in handwriting, spelling and science but the more one on one I can see her work and demand better instead of it just being lost in the 35 kids that a p.s. teacher would have or just be handed a f. she gets a chance at home to fix everything and actually learn instead of just getting that bad grade.

I am 1 month into the exact same journey. Pulled my 7th grader due to writing clearly being about 4th-5th grade level. For me I found using Alpha Omega placement was a big help to place him in the Monarch curriculums. As suspected we started at level 5 for LA. The plus for personization was the rest of his courses I could place wherever I wanted them. I am using the “special projects” for now in the courses for writing opportunities and really digging in on the “how.”

We learned in KY that “NCLB” means the teachers, principal, and schools are penalized heavily if they hold a student back, so they push them through became she it comes down to teachers not being allowed to hold kids back when they need it. 🙄

We are in the same boat. Removing our son today from PS. Hes in the 6th grade,3rd grade level,IEP. Made the decision and going with it. We’ll learn as we go but its got to be better then where he is now.

Sounds like my daughter…she is 7th now heading to 8th and has a reading comprehension level of mow 6th grade but when I pulled her she was in the 6th grade with a comprehension of 2nd grade…Thw school knew something was wrong and forced her to take summer school every year to move on to the next grade…they had me get her tested for add, adhd, and autism looking ro blame one of those and I kept requesting they have her tested for dyslexia…they finally tested her at the end of 5th grade and guess what she is dyslexic. We tried a year of their special services but she hated it because all of the other dyslexic kids in her group were 2 and 3 graders. (Who the school of course tested in a timely manner unlike my daughter who I had been asking them to test since kindergarten.) The final straw for me was her end of year parent teacher conference where they all started asking about her adhd meds and why she wasn’t taking them, I was like because the doctors said she wasn’t add or adhd or anything else that needed meds and so she wasn’t on any…2 days later CPS was at my door opening an investigation because I was with holding her meds (someone at the school called them) without specifing what meds I had with held…SHE WAS NOT AND IS NOT ON ANY MEDS!!! Took them 6 months to drop the investigation and I pulled her from public school immediately. We use Dynaread.com to help with her dyslexia and she has been making huge improvements. We also have subscribed to Audible for her literature, I can download almost every book I want her to read and she can follow along in her hard copy…but I do stop her a few random times so she can show me where they are in the book so I can be sure she isn’t just holding the book up and listening to the story.

My 12 yr old has a first grade reading level… p.s. just keeps pushing him up hes in 6th grade now. My question is the same as urs… how did the PS let him get this far?? Idk how this can be allowed. Good luck. I just pulled my 8th grader. And looks like ill be pulling this one soon too
Some inappropriate subject matter is being taught in a middle school in Madison, WI:  http://eagnews.org/wi-middle-schoolers-read-sex-poems-in-spoken-word-class/

Here is a post from a Utah anti-Common Core group.   Looks like their kid got punished for not bowing down to the whims of the Testing Consortium:

question with rewards or prizes. I opted my son out of a naep test. He came home devastated that he didn’t get a pair of ear buds. (I’ll buy him some) I remember reading that rewards can’t be withheld from a child who opted out is that correct? is it a state or national guideline?

And here is a reply to said post:

that’s even more interesting that they were gifted to kids because NAEP is a federal test. it’s called the “Nation’s Report Card”. it seems whenever the federal government wants us to do things, they bribe us. usually with money, but with 4th & 8th graders i guess it’s ear buds…

Ouija boards in kindergarten?  Yikes!   http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/02/after-kindergarten-teacher-used-ouija-board-in-class-outraged-mom-says-son-is-having-nightmares/

Here is a post from the Choose to Refuse Common Core group:

Beyond the high amount of stupidity… and I’m in high school.
nosy-big-education
 And here is another post from the Choose to Refuse Common Core group:

A teachers way to implement Common Core behind our backs.

My 9 year old absolutley would not finish her math because she did not understand it. My 9 year old would not let her mother, a Valedictorian, assist her before she went to school with uncompleted work.

Daughters response

“My teacher says if I don’t understand it to only bring it to her. My teacher said parents don’t know how to do this so just see her about getting help”

 And here is a reply to said post:

The superintendent told me not to teach my child at home because it creates divided loyalties. I said that she is MY child. Meanwhile, the district still puts out the usual B.S. about wanting more parental involvement.

Here is a post from a New York anti-Common Core group:

My son is 6 and in first grade. In January he began a new school, and has been very stressed out. Richie went from loving school and doing great, to a poor progress report and dreading school. There’s hardly any recess!! The progress report did surprise me, and seemed a little harsh, Richie was always ahead of the class, and he just started. This school does seem more aligned with common core (for Valentine’s day there was no party, but there was themed math!)

Recently he missed a family tree project, which even that had a strict rubric. My son can’t recall doing any of the family unit in social studies (start of February), nor discussing the project. How do you deal with a child so young missing projects and units? Richie seems genuine in not knowing, and it isn’t like him to not care about school. I wrote to the teacher, who only said maybe the papers were misplaced. Thanks for any input 😀

And here are some replies to said post:
It sounds like he is in a school that is strict about common core. Talk to them about not putting too much pressure on him. He is 6 years old and they need to teach him developmentally appropriate material and it is their job not to stress out the small children in their care.
That’s how I feel. At first I wasn’t happy with my son but then I realized how ridiculous that was. In preschool Richie did a family tree in a week. This goes back a month. I’ve stalled the project because of how it’s graded, and no clear answers as to why my son missed it… Recently he was absent two days and received a pile of papers!
Many parents have had similar issues. Kids need to work at their own age appropriate pace, and work should not be sent home when they are sick.
The amount of work they cover in a day of CC is ridiculous. You can’t be out for one day because it will take two to catch up!!!
Just pull your kid from this school. Find another. Homeschooling if you must. I’m sorry if I sound impatient with public schools but the torture my son endured through the end of first grade, before we found a private school without Common Core, shames me. You won’t be sorry. Get him out!
it is bullshit as i have said the teachers the principals the parents and as i have said before the parents are stronger then they are led to believe and i must add this goes for all children what the people dont get our politicians and our own govt. is selling usa bill of goods charter schools is not he answer but people like eva moskowitz is certainly making mega bucks and the naccp are against charter schools because they are going back to the 70s the polticial world is doing exactly what they want and that is because weather your black or white our children are getting the wrong end of the stick and by dividing us is not helping our kids wake up we must fight and i do not give a damm where you live yes there are bad areas and yes those children are getting the raw end of the stick just as well in the better areas because what our polticians and business people who have become ivolved in our schools they want to become involved that is fine give us money where we can get 15 kids in a class and special need kids who needs extra things and lets get rid of charter schools common core and last but not least betsy devos must go and here we are a billionaire never worked in a school i wonder if all the politicians and our govt who have children if god for bid there children got ill who would they call a farmer or a good doctor well what every parent wants is a good teacher and get more people into the schools that need certain extra needs and not only the children the parents as well
They are setting these children up for failure, the increase in children being put on medication for inability to focus has gone up since the inception of common core, and now they are taking away diplomas for kids that struggle. I guess if they can’t get it at the same pace as everybody else or they struggle they are not worth allowing them to graduate and go on to a bright future
This is why I struggle to “punish.” On one hand, no a kid shouldn’t be forgetting hw, or whole units, but on the other they do so much work!
They complain about kids being obese and not going outside, but let me ask a question. (not to anybody specific, but to everybody) if a 3rd grader has 3 1/2 hours of homwork and gets home at 3:30 – 4pm. That 3 1/2 hours of homework brings the time to 7 -7:30pm and your gonna send them out to play at that time. Or let them play and then they will be up till 10pm doing homework?
I have heard kids in 4th and 5th grade state” I should kill myself because I am stupid. ” because they don’t understand what is being taught, and with the curriculum being paved and set the way it is, if the teacher is asked by a student to explain it again, they don’t because “sorry no time, but you can give up your lunch to maybe get the extra help, (i say maybe because a 42 min lunch period and 12 or more kids come for extra help, not everybody gets helped and then they have missed their lunch and got no help and still don’t understand it)
[child’s name withheld]’s biggest complaint is a lack of recess. It seems like anything below 45 and the kids stay in! Indoor recess is work or a movie. I can’t imagine that much homework for a 3rd grader!
Mine too, and he is now in middle school and I will tell you he hates school, doesn’t eat much, and never smiles anymore, he struggles everyday and it’s a fight to get him to do work, because he says why bother, I am gonna fail anyway. Way to go common core, way to go schools and BOE
And they wonder why there is a increase in childhood suicide, anorexia, drugs (the legal stimulants as well as the illegal stuff) and drop outs

He’s six and the teacher expects him to be responsible for writing down his homework and details of a project without checking before they leave for the day?

There should be a daily planner where all assignments are noted and the teacher reviews each one before dismissing the class. The parent should be signing off on the page every night after ensuring that everything has been done.

They are SIX!!!!

Our schools use this method from K-5, although at the higher grades the teacher doesn’t check that they wrote everything down, but if they miss turning in an assignment they make a note in the planner so the parent knows immediately.

Hmmm, what could be on these tests that schools would have kids sign forms promising not to tell their parents what’s on them, especially when the parents didn’t know about the forms:   http://www.wptv.com/news/region-st-lucie-county/students-asked-to-sign-document-not-to-talk-about-test-to-parents
Here is a post from a Utah anti-Common Core group:

Today I am telling everyone about 2017 Utah SB 196. This bill will allow Equality Utah to distribute its literature in Utah schools legally and will allow pro-LGBTQ teachers to advocate for homosexuality in Utah Schools.

You can call your Utah House Rep. and tell him or her you are against this bill for these reasons.

http://le.utah.gov/~2017/bills/static/SB0196.html

Chapel Hill-Carrboro City schools will be closed on March 8th, 2017 due to a “Day Without Women” strike among the faculty:   http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/03/class-cancelled-because-faculty-will-attend-womens-strike/

Here is a post from the Choose to Refuse Common Core group:

GRR! Just found out from my daughter that in Health class they have had someone coming in from Planned Parenthood to talk to the class! I’m sorry, but I refuse to let my daughter participate when it involves baby killers! Her health teacher will be getting a real nice email from me for sure!

An honors program at the Sam Houston State University in Texas (SHSU). is offering a scholarship of over $2000 to students who take courses on “White Privilege” and Black Lives Matter and also gives them other privileges too for taking these courses:  http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/05/college-honors-program-pays-students-to-take-white-privilege-and-blm-courses/

Here is a post from the Choose to Refuse Common Core group:

If my kids went to Alexandria City, VA schools or Chapel Hill, NC schools — I would be livid!! “A Day Without Women” — all the teachers requested the day off tomorrow, resulting in the schools closing!! Could this be any MORE political?? If they all requested the day off to go to a ball game, they would be denied. But this was approved. They should rename it “A Day Without Privileged Women,” as now working moms who cannot just take a day off must scramble to find last-minute childcare, or go a day without pay. Good job Alexandria and Chapel Hill teachers. Clearly your allegiance is to the progressive left, not the children you profess to care about.

Here is a post from a Utah anti-Common Core group:

So I was just checking my son’s grades online, and noticed he is failing Science. I pull his complete progress report and notice there have only been two – yes two – science assignments this term. One of them is the permission slip for 5th grade maturation. He didn’t get it turned in on Friday so he got a 0 on that assignment. Is the school really allowed to give a science grade for a permission slip? I’ve never heard of such a thing, and it makes me not want to turn it in at all!

And here are some replies to said post:

Isn’t that program optional anyway??

Yes…optional! I always did one on one with my children except one….and it was VERY NICELY DONE by a woman gynecologist. Parents were invited to a night program. It was well done but I still took that daughter out for treats and a private followthrough discussion afterwards.

I would be sending an email right away. I would ask why/how a permission slip for an optional activity can be counted on a grade

He has a 100 percent on his other science assignment. He had an A and now has an F! This from a teacher who REQUIRES that each student put their name on both sides of any assignment. If they don’t do this, the assignment goes into the ‘no name’ box… Even though their name is on it! Yeah I’ll be calling the school tomorrow, I don’t think he should get a 0 and I also don’t think other children should get 100 just for turning it in!

Along the same lines, it is unjust that the kids are also graded on their parents signing those disclosures at the beginning of every year. There are a lot of them I won’t sign at all and others in my own form. Why are our kids being graded or their grades docked for their parents’ refusal to comply with the system?

Get to the principal. A teacher is really slacking off and you need to just walk in and tell him/her what happened. I have never heard of a permission slip being graded. No, no NO!! (Retired teacher)

Ive seen grades for such things before,but usually they were only worth a quarter to half an assignment grade though often than not these things were extra credit. Never have I seen something like this take up half a grade unless it was very early in a semeste, before getting more assignments

Either way, the kids shouldn’t be docked for their parents’ assignments.

I homeschool my kids, but when I did not, I had 3 notes every day coming home. It was ridiculous. I felt like I had a half hour to an hour of homework, just for myself, every night. When my kids did not get notes signed and taken back th next day, my child would miss recess. This was in elementary school.

Sigh. So messed up!

I am glad that as a homeschool mom, I do not have to do this!

My daughter got a 0 because I couldn’t “volunteer” X amount of hours for her, my daughter was my oldest I had 4 boys after (and another baby) spread 17 years apart. We home schooled the elementary kids. I didn’t bother with the principal I went straight to the superintendent. My daughter could NOT receive a 0 according to MY efforts, and I was reprimanded by the principal for going above his head and was told next time not to call the superintendent’s office. I immediately called the super’s office and told him what I had been told, he said call anytime I felt like I needed to. Well, needless to say I never needed to call again 😉 and she had that class all 4 years. **moral of the story – you are the only voice for your child, do what you have to and don’t take their bull. **

That moment you realize how much of the school experience is about conditioning kids to comply unquestioning with authority…

Really it is time for parents to get their kids out of these schools. Form community groups and start educating your kids at home. Working together you can make it happen. I recommend Freedom Project Academy.

Here is a post from a Texas anti-Common Core group:

Just reviewed one of the major history exams. A third of it is about Islam and Syrian refugees. Seriously and nothing about America. Now this pisses me off! What a disgrace! You truly believe the republicans in the Texas house and Senate stand on their beliefs. Give me a break. All pushing the indoctrination of our children. Their lying to you.

Here is a post from an anti-Common Core group:

Well something new for me to research…alarm bells went off in my head when I saw in the principal’s weekly letter the “exciting news” that next year our school will be piloting a “standards based report card.” I’m curious to hear if anyone has had experience with this?

And here are some replies to said post:

It was so bad at our high school they quit at semester. It was basically what the teacher thought of you. There was no ruberic and the teachers couldn’t even tell you where her grade was until semester. I actually had one teacher tell me she was getting a b because she thought my daughter tried hard. Grades on assignments didn’t matter. It was a mess.

We have had one at the elementary level for a few years. It is a disaster, 4 pages long, not parent friendly, confusing, tedious to fill out and try to understand, a really bad idea!

My son’s elementary school does something similar to this until 4th grade. I thought he did really well until this year. All Fs and I can’t get the school to help him. He’s on an IEP and I worry daily that he will fall behind and be forgotten.

My middle daughter was doing 8th grade math in 5th grade…and she told she was just meeting standards. This system is not usable by most administrators, teacher or parents. There is extreme manipulation – as an attempt to show “growth” by the end of the year. It’s garbage.

One of our local high schools used some alternative grading. This kids who busted it and turned in projects on time received equal or less grades than those who slacked and turned them in late. Maybe the slackers had more time to research? Who knows? I know the ones who turned them in on time were not happy.

Here is another post from said anti-Common Core group:

I refused naep testing for my son by submitting a written letter to the school. My son just informed me they are giving him a test anyway his teachers said it’s a ‘fake’ test and extra homework. His teacher singled him out and told him he is the only student in his class not taking the exam. Thoughts?

And here are some replies to said post:

I would be down at that school first thing tomorrow to reinforce that I was the parent and my letter said NO NAEP. How dare they?!

He said it’s a fake test. I said you aren’t taking any test that day and that I had sent in a letter and his teacher said he has to take a ‘fake’ test since he wasn’t participating naep testing.

Pull him from school that day.

thats what I did when they said I wasn’t “allowed” to refuse the leap test…pulled her from school for the week, wrote to everyone from the school to the school board, then she homeschooled this year

Update: my son came home from school today and said tom during naep testing he will be given computer test while the other students are taking he naep and that people will be in the classroom besides his normal teachers observing. When I called the school to find out protocol for him they said to call in the am they weren’t sure. I’m keeping him home.

And here is yet another post from said group:

Are we as parents not given the option to opt out of ELA and Math Assessments? This is what I found online regarding state testing so I’m confused and still learning. Grateful for this group. “Federal law and the New York State Education Department requires all students to participate in the 3-8 NYS ELA and Math Assessments as part of the core academic program. There is no provision in statute or regulation allowing parents to opt their children out of state tests.”

And here are some replies to said post:

It depends on the state they were in. Utah does allow parents to opt out. But not every state does. Just have them skip school the days of testing.

Yeah. I’m glad to be in Utah. I’ve also taught my daughter what to watch for and to refuse to do it – even if it means she has to go to the Principals office and call me. Can never be to safe. The scary part is they adapting these tests to be happening in everyday education. It will be an integrated part of their everyday learning. 😦

I kept my daughter home also, when they said she’ll have to take the make up I said then she’ll be out two weeks and tried to threaten me with failure due to absences… I told them I’d send that threat to a lawyer, she never heard anything about a make up test

You cannot ‘opt out’ you have to REFUSE the testing. Semantics I know but that’s the way they want to play the game

Looks like the state of West Virginia is endangering homeschooling:  http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/proposed-wv-bill-would-make-homeschooling-abuse-link-to-rep-contact/

Here is a post from a Utah anti-Common Core group:

Results of testing young children are SO BOGUS. If we put ANY relevance on testing them with computers we are badly off base. I retired. Then I signed up to teach early morning orchestra at a school in the same district. 45 minutes twice a week, then I went to use the super MAC Computers in the massive lab. Pretty high class neighborhood but that doesn’t matter…..here is what happened in reality during SAGE TESTING: Two teachers both in one corner helping SPED students try to read and type. Lab aide in back getting materials ready for next class at her desk. (I stayed EVERY DAY I TAUGHT…2X A WEEK…and observed) The students are left to read and mark answers on their own. Even if told to raise their hand, nobody is paying attention, so they give up holding up their hand. Most just would click any answer. I would see them helping each other, reading for one another, giving answers to each other (sometimes wrong answers…) and peeking around carrels to see what other kids are answering or how far along they are. Rarely is any teacher (except me…) watching the whole class or monitoring. In the few times they ARE, they would keep kids on track better. But I got to hear what they said out of earshot of the teachers. Like: Who can get hold of a jump-rope first. Like: recess is only 5 minutes away and if we don’t finish we don’t get recess! So.. Let’s hurry and finish….questions not even read. Answers clicked to the finish line without a care whether they are right or not….
So is it any wonder we are testing poorly in America? Or maybe we are NOT testing poorly because WE GUESSED LUCKY! That is the real scenario of sitting kids in a computer lab with too many questions and not enough activity at an inappropriate age. It is utterly wasted, useless time spent getting false statistics that the many idiots in upper education solemnly base their data, procedures, and appalling conclusions of “education today.” They are the ones to blame in the first place…taking students away from lessons and teachers. Testing should be short, verbal, random and not be the entire basis for grading knowledge and retention. Kids get blocks during testing .. Even oral testing.

Here is a post from the Utah anti-Common Core group:

This is my first year with a jr high student. In elementary school, when SAGE testing was done, I would pull my child out or they would allow them to work on other assignments. But this year, in jr high, I’m being told she has to take a written test. Can anyone fill me in on this? Sounds like a back door to the opt out.

And here are some replies to said post:

i would ask 2 questions:
(1) where are the questions for the written test coming from? from the SAGE Formative system (learning point navigator) or are they written by the teacher?
(2) will she be graded on it?

if the questions are coming from SAGE Formative i would still have concerns because SAGE Formative is part of the opt out (even if it’s in written form).
she shouldn’t be graded on her written test because the students taking SAGE aren’t graded on their test.

Thank you. I thought, surely they aren’t trying to trick students who opted out to still take the SAGE test…..but I was wrong. My 12 yr old will be happy to know she gets to sleep in for a couple days later this month (its her 1st period class). Thank you for replying.

The written test is still part of sage. I think it’s a way around to get the opted out kids to actually take it. 😬 Pull your kid out at those times if you can. At the end of the year when all they did was make up work, my sons teacher gave him a “make up test.” When he got the test my son said, “isn’t this sage?” She got a little irritated and said, “just put it on my desk then!”

I asked and you are right. It is just the written version. Clearly, these teacher don’t really understand why people opt out. (Self imposed ignorance in most cases, I’m sure.) Or maybe they are pressured to do it? Who knows.

I wonder if they’re pressured. She seemed upset about it, which is weird. Why would she be? Since it doesn’t go on their grade it shouldn’t bother her whether my son took it or not. Lol. I’m glad you got answers though.

The evil publishing company Pearson is spying on social media accounts of students in regards to information on the PARRC testing:  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/15/superintendent-confirms-common-cores-pearson-spying-on-kids-social-media-accounts/

Here is a post from the Utah anti-Common Core forum:

We are heading out to sign our child up for kindergarten. What are some questions concerns or comments that any of you recommend us to discuss with the administration to let them know we aren’t interested in any Common Core curriculum?

And here are some replies to said post:

I have fought this system with my kids’ schools since they implemented it n 2010. There were ways around it while still keeping them in the public school system. Every year, they’d legislate us out of the loopholes I’d found the previous year. At this point, with their stealth, imbedded testing and ‘written tests’ in place of sage tests, which are the same thing and collect the same data, and with the way they mix and mingle every topic into each other, each one laced with liberal propaganda, Marxist, Socialist indoctrination, race and wage-baiting, gender confusion, sexualization of children, Agenda 21, pro-Humanist and Islamic religion-tainted, anti-Christian agenda nonsense, there is no longer any way to protect your kid in the public school system OR to ensure them an actual, decent education. Run, don’t walk, to your nearest exit.

Yes! I agree 100%!

Spot on

So people that are still trying to opt their kids out of the testing and so on aren’t really doing any good now?

Opting your kids out of the tests is essential. If enough parents do it, their testing system will collapse and they’ll have no choice but to officially declare it ‘invalid,’ although it already is without the official recognition. However, they are still collecting the data points and sharing it with whomever AIR deems worthy without parental knowledge or consent. So, no, SAGE testing is not the biggest issue anymore, although it’s still important to opt out. There’s no reason to hand them the data without a fight.

And I thought certain states were able to get away from it?

Only on the surface. What they’re finding is that the feds have a chokehold on this issue and they’re not being ‘allowed’ to get away from Common Core without financial repercussions, which no one, so far, has been willing to lose. So, what’s actually been happening is that states are re-branding their curriculum, changing a sentence or two, re-naming it and selling it back to the public as ‘not Common Core.’ Rest assured, it’s still Common Core. I don’t know of a single state that’s successfully unentwined itself, yet.

Everyone in Utah’s Ed Establishment and govt says ‘we don’t have Common Core, we have Utah Core.’ But English is word for word except cursive and math just got some very minor revisions. But the same…

So you parents that still have kids in public school what is the answer. Homeschooling for us would not work right now. All I see as an answer is an expensive private school.

even the private schools are turning to common core. My kids are in Public schools. My best advice is to be all in. If you are going to send them to school make sure you know what is going on in their classes and be involved. Read minutes from school board meetings if you can’t attend and try to keep up on things as much as possible.

Teach carefully at home. If your kid is okay with it, don’t be afraid to send them back with no homework done (part of common core is serious homework every day). And make sure your kids are well taught early who they are and what they believe, so when they encounter contradictory infornation, they already have another pov, and know they can ask you. Whether you are officially homeschooling or not, you will have to spend some time homeschooling your kids to keep them safe from indoctrination and teach them how to think for themselves.

It’s tricky, too, because a lot of schools SAY they value parental input, but when it comes down to it, they still do what they think. I call them “parent handlers.” Grrr. If you qualify for an iep, get one. Yes, there is risk of labeling, and a long history of the disability, but as a parent with an iep child you have more leverage.

I have 3 kids in Elementary and we fight common core stuff daily. The biggest benefit I have found is being a very involved parent. Be in the classroom, look at every worksheet that comes home, talk about what your child learned. At my kids school, Davis district, after 3rd grade they have 1:1 computers so much of the work is completed on the computers and I don’t see much coming home. The whole state is slowly moving toward this route and my kids school was selected to pilot the program. My oldest knows how to work a computer and emails me things occasionally and I try to have my kids login to the computer programs so I can see what they are doing. I’m frustrated because over the last 8 years, 3 of which I was teaching for, I’ve slowly been kicked out as a parent in my children’s education. When I expressed concern to the principal he said I wouldn’t be seeing much come home anymore which makes I it difficult to help kids that struggle, or even to discuss what is happening in school. The biggest piece of advice I could give about sending your kids to school is just be involved. Look at the standards, know what they will be teaching about when and talk about it at the dinner table.

It is a tough thing to navigate. As stated you can’t avoid all of it. I would say to watch the online programs they use. Our school uses Waterford. It is a free program for kinders. Keep in mind that the standards are sometimes unreasonable. Don’t make a big deal if they tell you your child is behind. Reading is normal between the ages of 4 and 7. You can limit computer exposure and tell them how much your child can have. Don’t focus on the grade, just how much your child has learned. Volunteer in the class and be up front with the teacher.

I am in a similar position here in PA. My son is in kindergarten and has a wonderful (and conservative) teacher. However, the curriculum and Common Core makes me batty. He is already learning things I find age-inappropriate. Talking to the administration really doesn’t change anything. I get lip service and the “we have always done this” response. We live in a rural area, so there aren’t really any homeschool co-ops and my son ADORES school. He would be heartbroken if I pulled him.

I am not loaded. I work part time and home school 3 of my kids. I make it fit my schedule. We downsized and now,we are free to spend quality time with our kids teaching them what matters most. They do! Not money, not big houses, not loads of things, nice cars or our careers. It is a mindset and requires a paradigm shift to be willing to change. So many people i know nowadays either choose self reliance or big government. I choose self reliance because in the end that is what matters most. The government does not give a crap about you or your kids. Once you cut yourself off, it is very freeing.

The elite are going to damage everything. In 1990, Sweden went to a voucher system. Now all schools, including private, are funded and controlled by the government and everyone has to take the same tests. The New American says it is a fascist system.

I am not loaded. I homeschool 6 kids. It is expensive for books and supplies and classes which I hire people to teach. Truly, we make huge sacrifices. I sacrifice my time like crazy. It is hard work. I have to make more food from scratch. We shop at the Deseret Industries and take hand-me downs from everybody. We use a garden.

For liberty and God and Jesus Christ, it is worth it.

When you send your kindergarten child to school, don’t forget us, the people who told you about homeschooling. It is not impossible like you think it is.

Remember us and come back on and ask. You will surely end up homeschooling. I bet your bottom dollar you will. It is worse than you think. You will see that it is. You will be apalled. Kindergarten is not a garden of play. There is no time for play anymore. Kindergarten is a bootcamp for slavery under the NWO. Your child will lose happiness and joy. You will see it slip away slowly.

When that happens, do not forget that homeschooling is there and available.

It is worth the sacrifice. You love your child.

Here is another post from the Utah anti-Common Core group:

I see from your other posts that you are pro-vouchers. If you want to ask me questions, I know exactly why vouchers are bad. I will tell you right now. The voucher system is a fascist idea. Fascism is a form of Government wherein small businesses are controlled by the government. The voucher plan is all about this. It will appear to be grand. People will be very happy. The low income families (that is what Secretary DeVos and Pres. Trump specified) will get federal money to educate each child in a homeschool or a private school. I am sure many homeschooling parents will jump right on, to the detriment of our entire system of liberty in the U.S. The Taxpayers of the U.S. will have an outcry, causing standards to be applied to private schools and homeschool families as well. They will make sure you are not teaching religion in your homeschool. They will make sure private schools are not teaching religion, either. You will get visits from people coming to check on you at your house. They will know what books and dvd’s you use. They will want to know what curricula you use. If you make your own lesson plans, they will want them written so that they can decide whether to approve them. Every child will be receiving the government indoctrination. Vouchers are NOT a good thing. I will not be accepting government money for my homeschool. Even then, because private schools and homeschool families will have accepted the money, the laws about homeschooling and what we teach and how we teach it (and the tests) will all come crashing down on even me and my homeschool. We will have a fascist nation.

A California elementary school has banned the game of tag:  http://theresurgent.com/california-elementary-school-bans-tag-yes-tag/?utm_content=buffer5392e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Here is a post from a Nevada anti-Common Core group:

So in CCSD, 5th grade is scheduled for SBAC May 15-26. I just was just told by Assistant Principal that there is no opting out, it’s a state requirement.

And here are some replies to said post:

Wrong, lie

There is also an interim test, at least last year there was about a month prior. I didn’t use any form for that one, I informed teacher that if they had no work to give during the interim testing, I would keep my son home. They provided him with work. He is in CCSD too, 5th grade last year.

Yeah my daughter told me they started preparing this week- that’s the only way I knew.

I will still notify the teacher regarding all the practice tests – at this point, I’ll send the form certified mail return receipt….and we’ll go from there.

I have to call my son’s school, he has no clue if there are interim tests. I don’t like calling, all the bologna.

And for the record, Principal at my son’s school said if he didn’t take test, he wouldn’t be able to be placed in classes for 6th grade – another fib. You would not be the 1st to be given misinformation. 🙄

Sad but true!

My step daughter came home telling us how kids were crying from being forced to sit.; and being denied bathroom breaks until the tests were done. So now I save up my vacation time because my kids won’t be tortured like that.

My sons charter school forced my son to take it. I turned in an opt out form and was led to believe everything was fine until last week on Monday with my son called me and told me he was going into testing and they were making him take it. Neither the principal nor the Vice Principal return my phone calls. I’m still beyond livid 😡

This has to be illegal. Doesn’t federal law supercede state? Surely CCSD can’t pick and choose, legally. Something needs to be done – yes common core is ridiculous but this is becoming more than being solely about that

Here is a post from the Choose to Refuse Common Core group:

My daughter is a freshman. I’ve opted her out of common core testing previously but this year they’re telling me if I opt her out she will have a hard path to follow in order to be able to graduate. What should I do? Is their a possibility common core qualifications to graduate based on this testing will change soon?

And here are some replies to said post:

My son came home last week and told me that he was told if he doesn’t take the PARCC test next year he isn’t allowed French , which he wants (or any elective) that he must take labs?? Looks like another phone call to guidance to see what is going on.

In Georgia, you can not “opt out” in High School as the test accounts for 20-30% of their class grade. Not taking it and dramatically dropping your score will decrease your GPA and ultimately hinder your college choices.

Tired?  Southern Illinois University is holding “nap ins” so that students can “dream of diversity”: http://thefederalistpapers.org/political-cartoon/brutal-cartoon-shows-what-colleges-are-really-doing-to-students-these-days

A public school in PA is forcing a bunch of boys to dress with a girl who pretends to be a boy (what the Left calls “transgender”) and told them to make it as “natural” as possible:

https://www.toddstarnes.com/column/school-orders-boy-to-tolerate-undressing-with-girl-and-make-it-natural

Here is a post from an Ohio anti-Common Core group:

So, this letter was sent home with my son on Tuesday. They can’t be serious! We are not allowed to make doctor appointments for 5 weeks! Surely the children are not going to be tested every day for 5 weeks!

mean test form

Here is a post from the Choose to Refuse Common Core FB group:

My heart breaks with what our children go through at school. Michael is being bullied at school. It primarily happens at recess. He is called vulgar names, hit, and something called trucking done to him. He says he tries to stay away from the perpetrators, but it doesn’t work. Even the teachers send him away, when he goes to them for help. I know they are busy with other kids. It is hard for Michael to understand why they turn him away. The school has done little to stop this. In fact, one special needs student was removed from the school by his parents for bullying. The school would not even consent to a change of classrooms. He comes home angry, upset, and depressed. I wish beyond grief that I could homeschool my kids and not have to work. It tears my heart out.

And here are some replies to said post:

Hard is life when decision is involved and it’s not the one we want. It’s your kids don’t let another day go by till it’s set right go to his school watch photo vidio and if necessary go kick some child ass but don’t let it happen another day

keep him home, report to the school board, and tell them you will press charges against the administrators and teachers, and the school board if they do not take this seriously. If he is special needs, you may be able to compel them to tutor him….God bless you guys

Yes. Please be his complete advocate! Or you may end up with something as horrible as suicide.

twenty years ago, I had to refuse to send my handicapped daughter to school when they refused to address her being inappropriately touched by an aide. They brought her into the school counselor’s office, and both the aide and the counselor tried to convince her she was just grieving for our neighbor recently deceased. I knew nothing about it, until we were out a few days later…and she brutally attacked me. After that, it all came out from her. Took her to school the next day, demanded to see the counselor who tried to brush it off. Took her home, and informed the school she was NOT coming back there as she could not feel safe (I was scared I would get in trouble, but said fk it anyways. They had to provide an education for her, so they had to get a tutor.

Go to school with your son, have him point out the bully’s, take their pictures. Take pictures of the teachers, ( screw them saying they are busy, he is their job), report to superintendent. If no response contact lawyer, after moving your child. He has to know you have done everything you can. I have gone right to kid homes with my child and trust me, parents have no defense when you have your child there pointing at their brat. Honestly, most parents want their kids to act correctly and with compassion , otherwise, kick the parents a—.

back to grandson. had one they humiliated daily. called principal who got smart with me and flippant. said, well things like that happen, and I answered, so did columbine… she stopped it. called students into office and threatened them to expell and call parents. it all stopped. bullies need their butts whipped by a strong parent but school needs to step in. if your child is being treated like this, you can bet others are too. threaten to close the school down, get a group. ask your child what other children are being treated like this. do something. there is power in one and when others see you stand, they will stand too. I can only encourage you, this is not a new thing.

My daughter’s last 4 years of school were the most horrific time in her life. It definitely changed her. We went to the school officials and got 0 help. Her car was vandalized and later rammed by some of these ANIMALS, (just a couple examples) We tried reaching out to the parents and were treated like we were NOTHING, and our daughter meant absolutely nothing to them. I still feel rage. It’s been 5 years since graduation. It is way past time for parents to DEMAND change. If I had it to do again, you can bet I would handle it differently. My heart goes out to you and your Son. Whatever it takes GET HIM OUT of that situation. Prayers for both of you.

We really need to expose the schools for what they are. The anti-bullying campaign was never about real bullying. All the talk about zero tolerance, yada, yada, yada. The movement was always about shutting down free speech on opinions that disagree with the state’s liberal and immoral agenda by calling such divergence bullying. But a start would be to expose what the policy is NOT about: bullying.

exactly what my daughter is going through. They just tell her go play with the other kids. It doesn’t always help when they seak her out to tell her “I don’t like you”. One child was giving her indian rug burns and pushing her and and tripping her repeatedly.

I was a Teacher’s aid for years and it’s not that easy. kids don’t act like that because of years of guidance from their loving families. They are like that because of parents who don’t care to instill morals and discipline and guidance. Talking to them about lil Johnny’s behavior is like talking to a wall. You hear the “not MY kid and what did THEY do to make him act that way “or if they are of a different race than the victim it’s the race card or they just flat out blow you off. Raising a decent kid requires good parenting as well as other adults in authority reinforcing good behavior. When they fail to do their job and even put the kid at risk it’s time for another course of action

You need to raise hell, sue the school district. To bad we live in an age where they want our children to “tolerate” what is happening. When we were young, we were taught to stand up to bullies, now they want our children to be pussies. You need to fight for your child, or this will haunt you, and your child for the rest of your lives.

I find it thought provoking how their slogans are “no violence is tolerated”…yet continue to allow kids to be picked on then punish the kids if they fight back or retaliate.

Here is another post from the Choose to Refuse Common Core group:

I have a question, I refused the state testing for my child and sent in the refusal letter. In his folder I found a Common core testing sheet for ELA. He told me it was a practice test that they were told they had to do even they weren’t taking the test. I thought when I opt him out I also opt out of practice materials also.

Here is a post from a Utah anti-Common Core group:

Everyone, please call the governor’s office this morning (801-538-1000) and ask him to sign HB 136, Board of Education Revisions. We need to counter those who are pressuring him not to sign the bill. This is the bill that lets the state board reject federal mandates.

Watch out Utah, the governor caved and now they can push the Gay Agenda in Utah schools:  http://fox13now.com/2017/03/20/utah-governor-repeals-law-forbidding-promotion-of-homosexuality-in-schools/amp/

Here is a post from the Utah anti-Common Core group that underscores my point as to why “school choice” as it is is a bad idea as it just extends federal control:

“Vouchers threaten the autonomy of Catholic schools…. At least two schools had already purchased books and were told to use different ones, or they would lose their accreditation from the state as well as voucher money.
“In March of 1984, the U.S. Supreme Court made it clear that private schools are subject to government regulations if they enroll students with government money.”

http://iaheaction.net/parental-observations-regarding-their-voucher-accepting-school/

Here is another post from the Utah anti-Common Core group:

Sadly, YOUR children might be being taught that our Constitution is disposable.
Via Karla Ritzen:
Oh my, please don’t my friends report me on Facebook because snowflakes will cause me the loss of my job…
Doing a government simulation today, all three teachers in one room. 70 + kids. We had the 9 Supreme Court justices explain the bill of rights to the class. Well, we got into a heated discussion in EVERY PERIOD about the 4th amendment! Because I believe that what is being done to us at the airports COMPLETELY VIOLATES the 4th amendment! They dont have a right to rifle through my luggage, which has happened twice. They don’t have a right to stick their gloved hands down my buttcrack which has happened once in front of my very frightened 12 year old son!!! You have to have PROBABLE CLAUSE! And even when you have probable clause, you need a judge’s warrant to search my suitcase!!!! The two other teachers disagree with me and shared their arguments about “it’s keeping us safe!” “The country that gives up its freedom in order to keep its safety, deserves neither! Roughly the quote of Franklin! The sad part for me was that NONE OF THE KIDS AGREED WITH ME! I actually had kids ask me, ” what if your family member got killed by someone because there were no checks?” I said, “do nt even go there with me because my son signed up to die for that beautiful document and went to war twice to protect it! And I would rather die than give up my freedom. So would he!” If the airport situation is ok, then the next terrorist who strikes a Kroger store will now dictate that we have to be checked before going to the grocery store!!!! I am just sad today because I am a teacher who TEACHES THE CONSTITUTION! My partner teachers actually said that because of 9/11, common sense tells us that the 4th amendment shouldn’t matter because it’s about our safety! STUDENTS CHEERED!!!!! I wanted to cry!!!! Then I said, “because of your logic, if there is a terrorist attack at Kroger tomorrow, then we will have to now rifle through everyone’s purse who goes to Kroger! Where does it stop? I even told them that ONE TIME I gave them probable cause to search my luggage. I missed my flight, had to take a later flight, but my suitcase made the first flight. It was sitting at the airport for 5 hours . That is a REASON AND A PROBABLE CAUSE but they still need a WARRANT! We have pissed on the 4th amendment due to our “safety.” sad thing is… Kids think that’s all ok! Sorry for the long rant!

Disagree with a school’s ADHD diagnosis of your kids and lose all seven of them to CPS:  http://medicalkidnap.com/2017/03/21/ohio-parents-disagree-with-school-over-adhd-diagnosis-lose-7-year-old-son-to-cps/

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